Roshni is the founder of The Sonic Wealth Coach, a transformational leader dedicated to helping high-achieving women unlock their inner wealth and create lives of abundance, clarity and alignment. Using a powerful combination of sound healing, energetic tools, transformational coaching and somatic practices, Roshni empowers her clients to release limiting beliefs, reconnect with their intuition and embody their authentic power.

In this pod ep we chat about:

• how Roshni left the corporate world after years of being burnt out, tired and unhappy and decided to become a sound healer and coach
• helping women in corporate expand their field of possibilities by repatterning generational and ancestral wealth patterns
• how important it is to follow your heart and do something that feels so scary, but is so aligned with who you are at your core!
• how Roshni experienced a feeling of bliss when she was first exposed to sound healing, and the moment she met her first set of singing bowls - a collection which has now grown to more than 30 bowls!
• the shifting sands of identity and the voice of ego that can come out to play when we are contemplating "big leaps" into the unknown
• shifting from our conditioning to an infinite perspective and tapping into the unseen support and abundance available to us

You can find Roshni online on Insta here or on her website at www.thesonicwealthcoach.com

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TRANSCRIPT - S5E12 Sonic Wealth with Roshni Dattani

Roshni Dattani: [00:00:00] when I sat with my bowls, I felt at bliss. I felt joyful. I felt connected. And the stress that I had from my job, from my manager at that time, all the deliverables that I was doing.

It's like when I spent time with my bowls and my instruments, it's like I felt at this felt deeply peaceful. 

Kylie Patchett: Welcome to the wild and finally fucking free podcast show. This is a space where truth talking gets real behind the scenes. Grit of the future humans is laid bare, and we are celebrating and sharing the real world stories of change agents, neuro sparkly people, the witchy wild women, the deep feelers, the unapologetic senses, the status quo challenges, and the huge hearted healers and helpers.

And guiding you through this wild ride of entrepreneurship and full heart led contribution to the world is me, your host, Kylie Patchett, aka KP. I am a proudly NeuroSparkly, natural born status quo challenger, and I thrive on helping disruptors, rebels and revolutionaries find their voices, amplify their message into the world, and harness their raw potential.

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Hello everybody. Welcome to the podcast. I have the beautiful Roshni Detani in the seat today. Hello. How are you Roshni? Hi Kylie. Thanks so much for having me 

Roshni Dattani: here. I'm doing really well. 

Kylie Patchett: I'm so excited for this chat. It is so weird. We have had this booked for a little while and I just went on Sunday afternoon, um, to a lavender farm to have, um, to do a smudge making workshop and have a sound healing.

For, um, one of my friends bought it as a birthday present and I was like, Oh, it's so top of mind for me. So I'm so excited to be having this chat because you are the Sonic Wealth Coach. So for those who don't already know you, could you please introduce your beautiful self and what you do in the world?

Roshni Dattani: Yeah. So my name is Roshida Tani and I am the Sonic Wealth Coach. So I combine sound healing with transformational coaching. And wealth energetics to really help high achieving women connect better to themselves, [00:04:00] connect to their intuition, especially women who have worked in corporate and have worked in male dominated industries.

Helping them to find themselves is what I do. 

Kylie Patchett: Oh, so good. This is so needed in the world. I was just saying about escaping the corporate cage and I'm like, Oh, I am so, so happy to be talking to other people about this. Um, I'm very curious. What is your pathway here? Because when you say sound healing and wealth coaching, I haven't actually ever put those two things together before or heard them put together.

So I'm curious how the, what was your, um, process? Well, first of all, let's start with the corporate end of things. Cause I know that's part of your own journey. So when did you wake up? 

Roshni Dattani: Yeah. So for me, my journey into sound healing started in 2023. Um, that's when I attended my first sound bath. I had never heard about sound healing or sound baths before, but my sister and I, um, I was visiting her in the U S.

And we decided to go to the sound bath. I found an advertisement online and I was like, Hey, let's go check it out. So we both went together and that's what really kickstarted my healing and. Kind of career change journey, but I went to the sound bath and I was super relaxed. I had never experienced anything like that before.

Um, and I felt like during that session, something really started unlocking within me. Mm-hmm. Um, it was that point where I was able to deeply relax and just come into this place where I was just connecting to myself on an on a deeper level. And from there on, I just started getting all of this insight about what I really needed to do, um, on my journey, and it was more about me trying to help other people bringing, by, by using sound healing and, um, and using Healing modalities to help people in a similar journey that I've been [00:06:00] on.

So that's kind of where that kickoff start was when it came to me starting my journey. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. Yeah. So I wonder, um, do you feel like there was something in the water before you went to the sound healing and the sound, because you use the word unlock, which I think is such a. It's such a beautiful, like I can really feel that in my body and having just done a sound bath like two days ago, I'm like, yeah, that's what it does feel like.

Um, but do you feel like there was some inkling that it was like, this life in this corporate cage is not really fulfilling or was the sound healing? Like the, like, Oh, the light just turned on. 

Roshni Dattani: Yeah. I mean, I think things are happening behind the scenes. So I, I, I worked up until then for 10 years. Um, I started my career working in banks, so I worked at J.

1. Morgan and then Merrill Lynch, and then I moved into the fintech space. I thought maybe I needed to come out of working on, in those big corporations and maybe a smaller company, a startup would be better for me. So I moved into fintech, but again, I was burnt out. I was tired. I had so much on my plate and I thought maybe that would help.

Maybe me not having to dress up in a suit would make things a bit easier, but actually it didn't. And it just got worse. And I found that as my paycheck increased, I was having much more stress in my life. I was having so much happening in terms of You know, just me not having my own personal time and it was impacting my health.

It was impacting my relationships with my partner and my family and friends. And, um, I think that sound bath was That trigger point. But I think before that, I was already feeling the effects of the corporate burnout. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. It's so weird, isn't it? Because we, we so, so much conditioning to say like, this is what you do.

Like you go to school and then you go to uni or college, whatever you call it in your country. And then you go and get the piece of paper and you get the job and you, and it's all supposed to [00:08:00] just be roses and I'm relating hard to like, I used to work in, um, like medical management in hospitals and. Yeah, it, it's just, I remember putting on the suit that we had, like we had a uniform, but it was like a suit very, and it had like a cravat.

And every time I was tying that, I'm like, just don't feel like this is me. Like this, like, so. buttoned up and serious. And because you're, you know, working with doctors all the time and I was a lot younger. So then you've got that sort of like young female with the, all of the dinosaur 50 and 60 year old, like physicians that are specialists that think they're gods.

Um, and I was just like, how did I get here? Like, I've been playing the game the way that I've been taught, but I don't want to play this game. Like it's taking me away from it. Yeah. It was such a weird, yeah. Like the lie that we've been taught versus the truth that it feels like in your body is like, um, I'm just thinking for those of our listeners that have heard of sound healing, but maybe haven't experienced it.

Maybe we need to take a little step back and just be like, what actually is sound healing in terms of like, what's the general experience? Like I was just hanging out on Instagram, listening to some of your beautiful sound healing tracks on there. So I'm like. When we will do the show notes and put your link there, but I'm like, Oh, so good.

So good. But for those who haven't experienced it, do you want to like give a little, I don't know, like a, a beginner's one on one of sound healing. 

Roshni Dattani: Sure. So sound healing is a modality where you use vibrations, frequencies, um, To really bring this balance into your body. So through instruments such as crystal singing bowls, tuning forks, gongs, chimes, any other ancient instruments like drums, these all carry different frequencies.

And when we use sound healing, and through sound healing [00:10:00] experiences, these instruments impact our body on a multidimensional level. So spiritually, emotionally, physically. And so the way sound healing works is when you go to sound bath, for example, which is a group setting of, you know, you'll have, you go into a room and there'll be many different, um, maybe yoga mats or blankets on the floor.

You go lie down and you'll experience all of these vibrations, um, impacting your body. And generally with sound healing, the main type of benefit and effect it has is it's deep relaxation. So you end up feeling really relaxed. And sometimes you'll go to sleep or sometimes you'll have visions. Everyone experiences sound healing in so many different ways.

And there are so many wonderful benefits to it. 

Kylie Patchett: So good. I, as you're talking, I'm, cause I'm literally laying in a lavender fields. Like you've already got all the smell of the lavender around you and then there's sound healing. And I was thinking, 

Roshni Dattani: ah, 

Kylie Patchett: why do we not like, or not we, why do I not actually?

Just rest with sound because I know this, but it's like, I don't know. It's like, I don't know, get caught up in the business of what the world or whatever. Um, I did have an experience though on Sunday night for the very first time where. Um, the lady opened the session with a drum that she'd made herself and that was all fine.

That was like, didn't just felt quite relaxing and, you know, you feel it in different parts of your body. And I felt that kind of like, um, I always feel like it was like a bit of an unfurling like I'm like. Oh, okay. Like I'm a bit loosey goosey here. Um, but she had a, and I don't, I don't even know what instrument it was.

Cause I had my eyes closed and had a lavender eye patch on as you do. But it was very, very deep sounding. And I don't know whether it was because it was so close. Cause she wasn't moving around and like really playing quite close to us. But, um, Myself and my, [00:12:00] my friend, um, Janelle that was there. The, the really deep sound actually felt really uncomfortable.

And I was like, Ooh, I wonder, is that like a, a different frequency that maybe there's, yeah, what's that about? I guess I was like, Oh, this is a new sensation. I was not expecting this. 

Roshni Dattani: Wow. So that's really interesting. So I don't know what instrument was played, but generally with deeper sounds. Yeah. They impact our lower chakras.

So our root chakra, our sacral chakra. Yeah. And sometimes if there is any discomfort with those lower frequency, lower toned. Sounds. It could be because there might be a block or something coming up related to the root chakra. And so I know I've experienced that too where I've led some sound healing sessions where when I've had played some of the root chakra or sacral chakra crystal singing bowls, there has been some discomfort in the room.

But when I move, like, to the higher pitched ones, people end up liking those ones and they feel more relaxed and it's more ethereal. So yeah, it really depends on where it's impacting the body. And sometimes Even if it is a deeper sound, it can impact different areas of the body as well. So really dependent on the person experiencing.

Yeah, 

Kylie Patchett: it was quite, it was quite weird. Cause I totally did not expect it. Cause I've, I've done a fair bit of sound healing in my time where I used to live. Um, it's a. Like a hinterland area of Queensland in the state that I live in. And it's very hippie, like very hippie. So like you'd go to sound baths every Tuesday and Thursday night type of thing.

So it's not my first rodeo, but that's the very first time that I've ever had that. And actually, as you're talking about the base chakra, that kind of makes sense to me because it was a feeling of like, Ooh, I'm like, I'm almost like a, like, I want to. You know, like close up sort of thing, like a very, um, I wouldn't say I felt unsafe by any stretch of the imagination, but there was that kind of like, Ooh, there's something not, you know, I don't want to hear it sort of thing.

It was only very short and it was interesting because it was, [00:14:00] it was quite a quick sort of like. Settling. Um, but then my friend was like, Oh, I really did not like that. It was the second thing that she played. She's like, I really did not like that one that actually made me feel like a little bit sick and a bit like I wanted to run away type of thing.

I'm like, Hmm, interesting. Very interesting. Um, I, I, have you ever done sound healing in Ubud, in Bali, have you done that? 

Roshni Dattani: So I have been to sound healing sessions there. So yeah, I was actually in Ubud last April. So I went for a sound healing training there and yeah, it was amazing. Yeah. 

Kylie Patchett: Um, there's a place called the yoga barn there where you can go to sound healing.

Yeah. And it books out. Forever in advance. I've been a few 

Roshni Dattani: times. I was there like, I think three or four times during my trip. Oh, 

Kylie Patchett: so good. I'm so jealous. I took my, um, the last time I was in Bali was 2019 and I've got two daughters, 12 months apart. One is like very like, you know, I mean to all of mom's witchy stuff and, and the other one very not so much.

And um, so my daughter and I went to there and she's like, cause you know how long it is and it's such a beautiful. Like I'm always off with the fairies during that. And for people that haven't experienced it, it's, um, there's a group of monks usually that play, it's a Tuesday night thing and you go up into this.

Beautiful Balinese like, um, multi level story building. I know you know, but just for our listeners and, um, you are all sort of laying around, but also then there's multiple sets of bowls that they will play very close to you or different parts of your body. And I am always, every single time, like totally, uh, like I'm on some sort of journey out in the ether.

Um, but my daughter was like, she woke up like really late. I don't know where I am. I don't know what happened. I don't know what, what was that magic, but, um, such a beautiful experience. So, yeah, we were just talking about it. Um, she's like, we'll just have to go back [00:16:00] to Bali mom. Okay. She turns 21 this year.

So I'm like, Oh, maybe we will for your 21st, go to Saudi. Um, I'm interested when you like. So you said you found sound healing, but then you've threaded through like wealth energetics and the transformational coaching as well. So it was at your own kind of interest point, um, in terms of the wealth energetics, or was there something that happened that was like, Oh, these two need to go together.

Roshni Dattani: Yeah, I mean, I think it's a combination. So it's my own practice and my own, like. I guess whatever I've been dealing with in terms of like money and wealth and just discovering my inner wealth. I also found that I wasn't finding I mean, I have not, um, I've not covered anyone to date that combines well energetic coaching and sound healing together.

I felt like it's kind of a niche that I was bringing together for people, especially women who have, who work in corporate and want to learn how to embody that wealth and embody wealth from the inside out. Yes. That's what I like to focus on. through sound healing, when you go into these deeper states of consciousness and awareness, things begin to unravel within you.

And I felt that when you go to a sound healing session and you come out, sometimes people will feel things. And I want to be there to be able to have and help and guide people through that journey of, okay, well, this is what's come up, come up, come up for me. And how can I, um, Start to unravel these things that are, that I'm feeling that I'm experiencing and where can I go deeper into that work of healing and, and that subconscious reprogramming that needs to be done.

Yeah. Uh, such a good pairing. 

Kylie Patchett: That's why I was like, Ooh, I'm going to, I'm very interested in how these came together. Um, as you're talking, I'm interested when you, cause it sounds like you're working like with corporate. Women you've mentioned a few times, like as your main sort of ideal client. Um, [00:18:00] I'm interested in the differences between how we've been taught that wealth and worth are assigned through, you know, status or productivity or whatever, versus what you were talking about, which is from the inside out, which is very different, like it's.

It's the opposite of the outside in, I guess. So when you work with someone, like what are the things that I'm interested in, the main kind of themes that are circling around, do you see the same stuff all the time? I imagine 

Roshni Dattani: it's a mixture of different things. So like, for example, with my own personal journey, I was working in corporate.

I, I had this. consistent income coming through. And when I quit my job, yes, I have savings and I had savings to be able to support myself. But that's when I started to personally feel these money blocks come up for me. So I'm like, okay, well, I'm actually not getting this consistent income. My entire frame of mind is now shifting because Like I'm supporting myself, but it's also learning to trust that actually I'm in the right place and things will work out.

And that type of concept is very new and very alien for people who are working in corporate that don't really understand how to navigate that. And so that's an element of things of like the type of topic I would bring in, or it could be a question that one of my clients would bring up if they are also trying to consider.

Looking for an alternative path to for working or if they're looking for something else to do with their life These types of questions come up like early on in the journey where I'm like, okay Well, how am I gonna support myself and and what does this mean? and and especially when it comes to like generational blocks that come through that you inherit from your parents your grandparents and Sometimes those things we don't notice until later on in our life, or we notice them, but we're like, no, it's not impacting me, but then something triggers and you're like, actually, it's there.

Yep. 

Kylie Patchett: I found [00:20:00] too, like when I first left corporate, because it was such a, like my identity was so wrapped up in what I used to do. And because I was managing a company with 200 people and then you go to, excuse me, being an entrepreneur and being like. Solo. With no team. I found that identity shift. It was like, I had to unlearn so many rules in inverted commas of how I'd been taught to play the game.

And then I'm like, but what I value is freedom and the ability to take off on a motorbike and, you know, on any perfect sunny Wednesday and those types of things. But it was a real, I don't know. It was like whack a mole in the early days of like, Oh, there's another fear. There's another fear. There's like, Oh, because I guess when you're shifting identity, like.

Everything is up for grabs. I, well, that's what, at least what it felt like to me. It was like, Oh, hang on a minute. There's lots of stuff coming to the surface to play. And, um, I just had a session with my friend, a beautiful friend who's a medium and she was doing some clearing for me. And she's like, man, there's a whole heap of stuff connected to this.

And I'm like. I know this is sometimes I just feel like I'm not even reacting to this physical reality at all. Like there's something else going on. Um, so yeah, I find it fascinating that it, that identity shifting can bring up such a big, and I think too, especially I guess when you're in corporate. And you're so used to that consistency of paycheck, but the paycheck is connected to the status of the role or your productivity or the pieces of paper you've got or whatever.

And then you take that away, that's discombobulating too, isn't it? 

Roshni Dattani: Yeah, definitely with the identity shift that you mentioned because. I find that when you work in corporate, they're like the corporation management, they're giving you this false sense of security. So what they're doing is they're basically saying, we're going to provide this for you.

You're going to have these benefits. You can do X, Y, and Z in your wall. We're going to give you that leeway, but [00:22:00] actually your job can disappear at any moment. But what they do is like they put all of these things in place where you actually, yeah, you, you start to sink into this false sense of safety and security.

And then you're kind of dragging into that because you're like, okay, well actually. I have all this, I'm fine. So any of the fears and the insecurities, anything that you faced, um, especially around money, it's blocked because they're not coming up. You're not having the opportunity to say, actually, I'm in this situation.

I know now that these are the blocks I'm facing, but it's like they get covered up. And then it's only when you actually come out of an environment like that, or you're put into a situation where things are completely different that you start to notice all these patterns come up. Yeah, exactly. It's like, 

Kylie Patchett: as you're talking, there's like false sense of security.

I'm like, yeah, we get seduced. And then I feel like, um, at least in my, my own experience, like. I felt like when I was considering leaving my corporate job, that there was this huge stack of things that I was, you know, losing in inverted commas. And because I didn't have an experience of doing this, it was like, Hmm, okay.

In the end, my, like, I always say I suck at being an employee, no matter how high up in a corporation I get, I'm like. Yep. I still don't like this game. Even when I've got more power to influence things. I still don't like this game. And especially I still don't like the game of like, I have to be here at 830 every morning.

Like what? What? No, that does not fit with me. Um, when we talk about generational wealth things, I'm interested. Do you? Because I'm, I'm from very blue collar workers, we would call them in Australia. I'm not sure if that's an international term, but like dairy farmers, um, dairy farmers, beef cattle farmers, like very hard working people from the land.

And so there is an insane work ethic that I've been brought up with. And also my [00:24:00] dad. It was 55 when I was born, but he was born in the depression in 1920. So that like he, he had lived through it really. And he was the eldest of, um, nine Irish Catholic kids. So you can imagine like there wasn't much around.

And so I definitely was exposed to multiple. Messages about money that were not helpful for entrepreneurship, like, and that's why, like when I was saying to you, you've already done this once around the entrepreneurial flagpole and went back to corporate. But when I look back, I'm like with a lot of self compassion, obviously.

Um, I just created a business that was more working hard. Like I created a job for myself, but worse because I was working even more hours. And so, yeah, I'm interested in how the generational patterning impacts us. Now, and I do, I feel like it's really important for people if they're listening and they haven't left corporate, like be ready.

If you're going to take the leap, like just know that these types of things will maybe prop up for the first time, but what are some of the generational things that you find, um, uh, present for people? 

Roshni Dattani: Yeah, so generally, I mean, I guess there's different things that do come up. I mean, I can talk from my personal experience of things that I've faced with my parents, for example, my parents worked in corporate, my dad, my dad still works, he still works at a bank.

They, my parents and my parents generation. They were used to working for someone and getting that income from someone else. Mm hmm, mm hmm. But before that, with my grandparents, my grandparents built their own business. And I think they worked super hard to bring it up to support the family and to really build a lifestyle that could allow for their children, or my parents, to be able to work at a good company and earn a lot of money and And so like I felt like I could see this like pattern of entrepreneurs in my [00:26:00] line, but then like with my parents, it was like, okay, well, actually, we're comfortable working for someone because now we can then support and earn enough to support you guys to have a good lifestyle.

And I feel like I'm trying to break out of that again by saying, actually, I can work for myself and build a business and build, you know, my branding. That's going to be successful and thriving and go back into that type of mentality of working for yourself. But I think with the generations, with that programming has come, I know for me, like when I told my parents that I was leaving my corporate job.

And starting my own thing, there was a lot of hesitancy and fears coming up. Like, okay, are you going to make it? Are you, do you have enough savings? Like all of these questions and worries came up. And I do face that with a lot of my clients as well, who are looking to shift from corporate to either healing or coaching business or doing something completely different from working for someone else for someone else.

And those questions come up. And I think, especially if you carry any type of fear of what other people think that's going to impact you when you're making that decision to shift out from your career. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Roshni Dattani: I was, I was, 

Kylie Patchett: that was my next question about your parents. Cause I'm like, I know that my parents just thought I was mad.

Like when I, when I, when I left, they're like, what, you're going to leave that good job, you know, the good job as in security and the whatever. And I'm like, There is no real security in any job, like, and that was, you know, a long time ago now, and especially not now. I'm like, people can just lose their jobs in a heartbeat.

I'd much rather be in charge of, you know, my own earning potential and grow it over time. So yeah, it's very interesting. Um, with the sound healing, I'm just wondering in your own, like practice your own kind of self care and [00:28:00] Transformation, you know, self devotion practice. Um, do you use Sound regularly as one of your modalities.

Like, do you, like, can you get the benefit? I guess what I'm asking is, do you get the benefit from playing? I'm guessing you do because you're still exposed to the sound. Right. So cool. I love, I'm obsessed with your singing bowls too. They're very pretty. So what's your kind of practice for just, yeah, dealing with any of the stuff that we've been talking about that comes up to just release and keep going forward.

Roshni Dattani: Yeah. So generally what I do is I have a morning practice where I'll do a meditation and I do a lot of somatic practices and breath work, um, to really ground myself and settle into my day. And especially if there's any stress or. things come up. That's like my go to for my daily like practice. Yeah. And then I also accompany that with sound healing.

So I'll do my own self sound healing sessions for myself. And that helps also to release any blockages helps with any, anything I'm going that's happening internally. Yeah. So that's like a daily thing that I do for myself. And then I also attend soundbaths. Just to be able to switch off completely and be able to give myself that self care and self love and receive from someone else.

Kylie Patchett: Yeah, so good. Oh, so good. I'm just, my body is like, Oh, I just want to lay down in the lavender fields again as we're talking. Um, do you think that, uh, cause I live in a little country area, so there's not actually that much sound healing where I am. Although apparently this is a regular thing, which I didn't know.

But do you get the same benefit and I'm guessing not, but if you were listening to like a, a track of someone playing bowls or whatever, sound healing instruments, would you get the same benefit or is it slightly different? 

Roshni Dattani: I think the benefit would be the same, but the experience would be different. So when you're in a room and you're actually feeling the vibrations [00:30:00] physically and having those instruments around you, um.

That experience is completely different because you're getting instruments and sounds and vibrations coming through different parts of the room and depending on the size and shape of the room, those vibrations might be really, um, you know, that there might be really powerful. But, um, I also believe that with virtual sessions and online sessions, you can also benefit, um, equally.

And that's something I offer. So my primary way of. Working with my clients is online, so I do virtual sessions, and of course I have the equipment to be able to make sure that those sounds come better through Zoom and online. But I think the benefit is there, um, and also I think what it comes down to is intention.

So if you have an intention to receive, um, everything is energy, so when you receive it from an energetic point of view, whether you're in the room, or you're across the country, that way that you're going to receive it is going to be very similar. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Roshni Dattani: Oh, I'm so glad that you said that because I'm 

Kylie Patchett: like, please don't say it's not as good.

I mean, I know what you're saying. Like the experience is different, but, um, I'm in the, I don't know. I, I tend to change up my devotional practices every few months or so. And I'm feeling a shift at the moment. And I'm like, I just don't know. Like there's some things that I do every day anyway, but I just don't know what type of sound I want and having gone to the sound healing.

So this is perfect timing for me. Thank you. Um, I'm curious when we talk about wealth energetics, like we've talked about some of the generational stuff, but I feel like the way that the world understands. Money and the rules that the, and I mean the world as in the, you know, overall system that we have all been exposed to.

Um, and that exchange of time for money, et cetera, and then shifting into that entrepreneurial, um, more mindset of like, you, you can [00:32:00] actually, you know, you could do one to many, you could do like lots of different ways of business modeling and, um, earning income. When you're talking about wealth energetics, how do you explain to someone?

Who hasn't taken the leap yet about the energetics of what needs to kind of, and I, not needs to shift, but there's an invitation to shift 

Roshni Dattani: in, 

Kylie Patchett: in a different way of receiving, I guess, is what I'm asking from an energetics perspective. 

Roshni Dattani: So what I would say is from, from that perspective of someone just about, of just who is about to shift from corporate into doing something that they love, I think it all comes down to alignment.

So when you're doing something that is in alignment with who you are, um, and what your purpose is, what really drives you, what fulfills you, what makes you feel good, that's where The money is going to come. That's where the wealth is going to come because you're not putting a cap on something and I think that's like where the whole abundance mindset.

Um, comes through where when you start to look at things. From this infinite perspective that there is so much out there that we don't even know because we can't even see it. And it's going from the seen to the unseen. Um, and one of the practices that I like to guide my clients through is like actually looking at the stars in the sky.

Looking at the sand, looking at things around you and when you start to look at those things and you know what it's actually I can't even count the number of stars that are out there, you start to realize that the world is a bigger place and there's so much that the world can offer you. And it's just tapping into that mindset and knowing that okay as long as you're in alignment with what you love and what drives you and the alignment with your heart and your mind.

That's where that shift is going to happen. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. Yeah. Such a good example. I, I love coming out. We have, we've always got fairy lights in our backyard. So [00:34:00] where I'm looking out into my garden, there's like strings and strings of fairy lights. And every night when I make the transition from my garden office, back into my house, I take a moment just to, you know, have my feet on the earth.

And I was looking at the stars last night. I was like, this is such a good example of the Our capacity to understand that when we are like welcoming in whatever it is that we're welcoming in that we're not actually taking away from someone else. I feel like that's one of those, like that binary that a lot of us have grown up with.

Like, you know, there's only a certain amount. And if you, you know, the one at the top of the pile gets it and all of those types of things. And I'm like, but there's so much in this guy, when you look up, especially where I live, because there's no lights. So I'm like, there's like, I don't even know what number, like, I'm going to say close to infinity because the numbers have got too many zeros, but I just love that.

It's like, hang on a minute. I've been zoomed in, in this human experience where I might be still, you know, dealing with old like ideas of things. But actually, yeah, there's so much. And I'm always saying to clients, like, don't think like it, don't think like, yes, your brain is great for certain things, but not great for anything that is bigger than what you have already experienced because it's only, it's only able to filter for what it knows, you know, already.

And I'm like, so let's stop thinking, let's get back down in the heart and the body. And, um, yeah, I feel like that kind of opens up that, um, Yeah. Perspective. That was such a, such a journey for me because my original training is as a forensic biologist. And I feel like a scientist is very, like what you can see touched it, like the five senses thing.

Like that's, that's the real, that's what you can study. That's what you can hypothesize. That's, and I'm obviously there's. Strands of science that deal more with the unseen, but it has been such a journey for me to like, it's like, and then unlearn that again. And then I learned that again. And then I learned [00:36:00] that again.

So good. Oh, it's so good. And the, um, when you're saying alignment with your heart, I feel like, I know it's kind of sounds like, I don't know, like something that's easy to say, but I really would love to ask you about like, how do you describe the, The feeling and the knowing of when you are in alignment with your heart, because I think for some people, you know, you like get in alignment with your heart and then the head starts going.

Roshni Dattani: So with that, it's like the alignment with your heart, it's like you have your ego, which is this voice that's telling you and keeping you in that safety position of, okay, don't do that or do this. You know, like it's giving you those, those voices that it's, it's that voice where, you know, it's trying to protect you from doing things that you should really be doing.

And yeah, alignment with your heart sounds so easy and, but it's so difficult, but I think it's like when you actually start to connect with yourself on that deeper level where you spend time with yourself. Um, you take time out for yourself and you start to hear that voice internally that's giving you that guidance that you know is going to actually help you to thrive and help you to achieve that, that dream that you've had internally, that sometimes you've just not been able to get into because of those blocks and because of your ego's voice.

That's like the, the voice of the heart that I'm referring to. Um, But with that, it's like, when our head gets in the way, that's where we sometimes don't hear our heart, because we're hearing our head, we're hearing the ego. And it's like, taking that time out, resetting, allowing yourself just to like, breathe.

That's where that voice comes through. 

Kylie Patchett: I've got this thing that I'm constantly saying in sessions. Like I, many, many years ago, I trained in more mindset modalities. [00:38:00] Like before, you know, before we all knew that semantically there's some stuff going on, that's not going to be covered in mindset, but anyway, back then.

Um, I used to say like, you know, we've got this part of our brain and whether you call it ego or whether you call it the prehistoric brain, like, and back in those days we used to say lizard brain. I'd be like, well, my lizard brain's, uh, name is Brian and I'm quite often putting him in the corner in a beanbag with a box of popcorn or something.

Like, you just sit over there , we've got this, like the heart is in control here. Like, we don't have to worry about your because. Yeah. That voice can be so convincing. And then all of a sudden you're like, Oh, hang on a minute. I haven't taken the time to be like resting and just gently allowing that voice of knowing to come to the surface.

Cause I find. Yeah. That's still an edge for me of like the staying in the doing mode, because I'm so excited or motivated to get something done or to create something that, yeah, it's like, hang on a minute. Hello. How are you today? Just reconnecting. Um, when you realize it was time to actually take the leap with corporate, how much.

Mind and heart jockeying or ego and heart jockeying was going on 

Roshni Dattani: so much. Oh my gosh. So yes, it was at the end of 2023 that I was kind of playing with that idea of leaving. my corporate job. I think what happened was probably middle of 2023, I was hearing this like internal voice, my heart saying, okay, it's time for you to think about leaving corporate and gently telling me whispering in my ear, you know, that time is coming up, you know, think about it.

You know, there's something more that you're going to be doing with your life and it's not just going to be in corporate. I felt it and I was like, okay, that, that feels right. It felt right in my body. Um, but then as time was going by. [00:40:00] It's like those voices, oh, what's going to happen if you quit your job, what are people going to think?

Um, what's going to happen with your job title when you tell people you're no longer working? Um, you know, not managing this huge global team anymore. And, you know, the whole, all these voices were coming into my head, all these things. And it's like, I was getting drowned out by them because I'm like, okay, well now there's so many things I need to think about because if I leave my job, I have all these worries and all these problems and all these things I need to think about down the road.

So with that, um, during my journey at that point, I remember sound healing really helped me. So that's where I was using sound healing for my own practice and bringing that back. It was like, okay, when I sat with my bowls, I felt at bliss. I felt joyful. I felt connected. And the stress that I had from my job, from my manager at that time, all the deliverables that I was doing.

It's like when I spent time with my bowls and my instruments, it's like I felt at this felt deeply peaceful. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Roshni Dattani: So when I realized, okay, actually I am going to be quitting my job, which is so stressful and so crazy and just, yeah, just completely like misaligned with what I feel like I'm meant to be doing when I go back to my bowls and I feel this way.

That's how I should be feeling. For as much as I can, you know, and so that's kind of my driving decision because I'm like, okay, well, I, I'm going to be doing something and bringing people into this modality of healing that's really working for me. So that's when I decided, okay, actually, this is now, now it's come to the point where I need to leave corporate, I'm going to be handing in my notice.

Whatever happens after that, I will deal with later, but I'm doing something that feels aligned, feels that it's coming from my heart. [00:42:00] And to be completely honest, as soon as I gave him my notice, I felt this weight, this burden just completely dropped for me. I felt lighter. And it's like, I think up until where the few days before I gave my notice in, I was worried.

I was like getting nervous. I'm like, what is my manager going to think? And then I, you know, what is his manager going to think? As soon as I did it, it's like, There was a sense of relief. Yeah. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. And all of a sudden it doesn't actually matter what anyone feels. Exactly. So good. Um, I just love the fact that you say so blissful with the balls because I, I feel like there's part of me that I don't know.

I feel like when I made the decision to leave corporate, I had the same experience, not with sound healing, but with the different modalities that I was using myself and training in. And there was also a part of me that was like, is it okay to feel this good? Like I had been conditioned so much to be like working hard and you rest when the work is done.

And that's when you get to feel good. But then the, there is. Never like the work is never done. So therefore you never rest. So therefore you, and I feel like that was a real edgy expansion. Like now it's fine. But when I first left, I was like, okay, this is actually deeply uncomfortable for me to actually feel this good.

And then I'm like, that's insane. Like I had to really, you know, anchor into like, this is my birthright, like peace and calm and abundance are actually a natural state. It's not. Um, not something that we, I have to work like 200 hours a week to actually earn. Um, I'm interested when you, do you remember when you first bought, did you buy a whole set of bowls to start with, or did you buy one bowl?

Do you remember the, the first one? 

Roshni Dattani: Yes. So I bought a whole set of bowls. Yeah. Yeah. I kind of was like, I'm going to go [00:44:00] all into this. I'm like, I'm going to, so I bought a set of seven chakra, seven chakra bowls. Yeah. Um, and I was like, you know what, I'm going to have one of each because I can, and I was like, that way I can actually start to really.

practice. I can really feel these vibration sounds, understand what sound healing means, and put it into practice. Um, and so yeah, I started with all seven. I think now I have almost 30. Oh, exciting. Oh my goodness. I have, yeah, and I think I keep adding to my collection. I'm like, okay, Pretty much not going to have any space to store all of them.

Where do I live in my 

Kylie Patchett: You have to put them under your bed or something. Yeah. Do you remember what it was like to unpack the first ones and be like, Oh, like I imagine that sense of bliss when you could access. You know, live sound bowls was quite insanely. 

Roshni Dattani: Oh my gosh, it was so exciting. I remember when I ordered my bowls because they were custom made.

Yes. It took about four to six weeks for them to get delivered to my, my home. And I remember getting the email in the morning, seeing that they were going to arrive that day and I was working. It was a work day. And I was like, Oh my gosh, like I could, I felt like, Oh, like I was so excited. And I was so excited to be able to receive them.

And then I remember after I logged off from work, I straight away open the, open the boxes and they were absolutely beautiful. Like I started to just like test them out. And I'm like, I wasn't completely in love with them. That's 

Kylie Patchett: what I, I was, that's why I asked. Cause I'm like, Oh my goodness. I just imagine.

Yeah. Just imagine the relationship that you have with them as this, like, you know, this is where my heart has led me to, um, yeah, quite special. Oh, so good. So good. So good. Um, I would love for you to share with people, um, you mentioned you do sound healing, but you've also, you also do that wealth energetics and transformational coaching.

So how can people find you, but also what are your, what, what are the ways [00:46:00] that they can work with you? 

Roshni Dattani: Yeah, sure. So right now I'm just in the process of redefining my offerings. Yeah. But generally you can work with me is I do one to one sessions. Um, I've done a couple of group programs as well, which have been eight week coaching and sound healing and wealth energetic programs.

And we cover all of those aspects. For growth. Um, I am currently offering which we're going to be starting. I'm doing a joint collaboration for a program called the inner wealth effect, which is going to deep dive into people's money blocks wealth blocks. I'm using sound healing using somatic practices, inner alchemy work.

Um, and coaching to help people come out of those blocks and to help them really embrace that inner abundant self So that program starts on the 8th of March. So in less than two weeks, yeah. And then I have a couple of other programs that I'm going to be launching in the next couple of months as well.

Kylie Patchett: Exciting. And where can people find you? We'll put all this in the show notes, but you are very easy to find because you are the same name everywhere, which is lovely. 

Roshni Dattani: Exactly. Best way to find me is on Instagram at the sonic wealth coach. And then my website as well, which is the sonic wealth coach. com.

Yes. Thanks. Bye. 

Kylie Patchett: I love it when people have matching. I do not have matching anything, but that's fine. Thank you so much. It's been such a joy to get to know you and your work in the world. And yeah, thank you for sharing your story. I cannot wait to see what you and your bowls create next. 

Roshni Dattani: Thank you so much.

Thank you so much for having me on today's show. And yeah, I can't wait to share more. Yes. Thank you.

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